tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11585641.post111702713703303528..comments2023-08-07T06:17:52.287-04:00Comments on Random Acts of Logic: Of Fingers And BurgersErik Growhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10200161330427377798noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11585641.post-1117201144577913882005-05-27T09:39:00.000-04:002005-05-27T09:39:00.000-04:00nicnerd - where did you get killing babies out of ...nicnerd - where did you get killing babies out of what Devo said? He clearly stated that we should find a better resource for non-viable embryos (there are such things) than just tossing them because it's "morally" wrong. It's essentially human waste. So why not use it for the purpose of science and research? Human spare parts are ethical. Think about it - kidneys, livers, hearts are transplanted every day. Skin from other people flab is used to fix burn victims skin. Fat is moved from the ass to the lips. Blood is transfused... lungs are transferred... <BR/><BR/>That's human spare parts. Are you telling me that's not ethcial? <BR/><BR/>And those are viable, living parts. Stem cells are not. Stem cells are leftovers, possible embryos that never could be. <BR/><BR/>You so easily associate that with killing babies. Your crude and reactionary association is quite ignorant actually. There is no killing of any babies, and you know that. If a woman has an abortion, the baby is dead. That's her choice. So why flush that puddle of embryonic goo down the toilet when it could be used to find a cure for disease or whatever? It's already waste, why waste it?Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17901775650107668695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11585641.post-1117135403215045672005-05-26T15:23:00.000-04:002005-05-26T15:23:00.000-04:00Devo, your debate style is rather disrespectful. ...Devo, your debate style is rather disrespectful. I do not wear panties, Erik will vouch for me when I say nobody would want to see me in panties.<BR/><BR/>"outdated values"<BR/><BR/>I missed the memo on when killing babies became acceptable. Statements like this and "extra embyros" represent a callous disregard for the sactity of life. Human spare parts sound ethical to you? Oh my!nicnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02850200569173974141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11585641.post-1117113504946284642005-05-26T09:18:00.000-04:002005-05-26T09:18:00.000-04:00Ohhh, I never saw that actually. That certainly wa...Ohhh, I never saw that actually. That certainly wasn't on TV! Maybe I should go find it though.Erik Growhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10200161330427377798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11585641.post-1117074345752618822005-05-25T22:25:00.000-04:002005-05-25T22:25:00.000-04:00I think I was referring more to her porn video, my...I think I was referring more to her porn video, my friend. I like women as much as the next guy, but I don't need to see sex 24/7 on the tube. Unlike some other folks, I don't feel the need to protest about it. I think that it is terrible, I am ashamed of where we are as a society. I choose to not endorse it, let others do so if they choose. I just do not find television interllectually stimulating, or even entertaining for that matter.nicnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02850200569173974141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11585641.post-1117073367683589442005-05-25T22:09:00.000-04:002005-05-25T22:09:00.000-04:00Actually Hector, I know exactly what you mean. Whe...Actually Hector, I know exactly what you mean. When you're rich, you can afford to be mentally lazy, even when you are actually smart enough to do more. Paris *may* fall under that category. <BR/><BR/>Yes, nicnerd was also watching the Super Bowl at my house during the Janet Jackson incident last year. Hehheh. I've said this before Dan, but when you start talking about smut, I forget that you are actually 30 and not 60! It's just a swimsuit. Hehheh.Erik Growhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10200161330427377798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11585641.post-1117053601727232662005-05-25T16:40:00.000-04:002005-05-25T16:40:00.000-04:00I don't buy hamburgers from WHORES like Paris. I p...I don't buy hamburgers from WHORES like Paris. I prefer to buy them from guys in rubber masks and crowns... <BR/><BR/>As for her being dumb, no, she's not dumb. She's just mentally lazy. If that makes sense.Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17901775650107668695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11585641.post-1117043282063078862005-05-25T13:48:00.000-04:002005-05-25T13:48:00.000-04:00Devo, you must not be very old. Ini-vitro fertili...Devo, you must not be very old. Ini-vitro fertilization was indeed quite controversil and some people did in fact oppose it because it is unnatural. I am somewhat biased on the subject because I went through the infertility nightmare while trying to conceive my first child. In the end, the conception was natural, but we were very close to trying in-vitro. Obviously, I do not oppose it, but some folks did. I do find it freaky and unnatural and had many debates with my then wife about it.<BR/><BR/>Paris Hilton is not attractive IMHO. I am not sure what the flap regarding the advertisement is about, but I presume it is suggestive, like much of the crap on television. It does bug me that this stuff is on television, but I take a different approach, I simply do not watch television. For many years I did not even have television in the house. It is a very rare day indeed that I allow my children to watch television. It is even more rare for me to watch it. The last that time I watched anything on television was the Super Bowl at Erik's house. I find it full of Madison Avenue flash, smut, violence, and simply nothing of an redeeming value. I prefer to read a book, currently I am reading Tim LaHaye.nicnerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02850200569173974141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11585641.post-1117041044935956162005-05-25T13:10:00.000-04:002005-05-25T13:10:00.000-04:00Some Catholics are against even in-vitro fertiliza...Some Catholics are against even in-vitro fertilization, but many Catholics and most Protestants are not against it.Erik Growhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10200161330427377798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11585641.post-1117033841089152352005-05-25T11:10:00.000-04:002005-05-25T11:10:00.000-04:00Well to be fair there are not many "kill doctors t...Well to be fair there are not many "kill doctors that perform abortions" types, though they do certainly exist, along with a much larger, but still smallish number of people that sympathize with them. <BR/><BR/>Actually, I had nearly forgotten about that angle devo, in-vitro extras! Yes, that is an even better case for a pragmatic solution. As we have seen though, this is not based on what solutions would have what net effect. It's based on ideology, period, and there is really no reasoning with them.Erik Growhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10200161330427377798noreply@blogger.com